What would you put in your second aid kit?
Actually, the hospital/doctor is NOT what second aid originally is. And first responder aid is also not what first aid is about.
First aid is what is meant as the actual first aid that can be provided by anyone with minimal training. As the concept came from the military the “first aid” was meant to be applied by fellow soldiers - this is were the (rather surgical trauma oriented average first aid kit got most of it’s content of). (Unit-level embedded medics came far later) In a civilan setting nowadays it includes the basic life support provided by non-specialist first responders and depending on the definition it might include BLS ambulances (which are not seen as professionals sometimes)
Second aid was what a medical professional does - a paramedic, corpsman or doctor and can also include a casualty collection post or similar structures. Definitions here split up a bit - depending on which authors you read second aid (aka the second aid stage) does not include any intrahospital care but does prolonged care scenarios(cases you cannot evacuate to a medical facility for longer times,like 24h+x). Other authors do include basic hospital care or similar facilities that provide some but not all treatment.
After that tertiary or definitive care takes over - that’s when shit definitely gets fixed if it’s fixable. That will always include intrahospital care.
To get back to your question what would be in a second care kit: Things needed for prolonged care usually. I did work in a prolonged care scenario for a while and can give you an overview what we had in our “prolonged care” kits: Urinary catheters (people need to pee even with a broken spine and we need to monitor urine production. And you can fix almost everything with it…you fix holes in hearts with them, can use them as a feeding tube,etc.), more and more permanent pain medication, suturing kits, surgical drainages,lots and lots of desinfectant, more iv fluids, heating solutions both for the patient and the fluids, medication for more permanent care (strong antibiotics, heparin to avoid pulmonary embolism from immobilisation), Military medics often include patient to patient blood transfusions kits, but I worked on the civilian side. These would easily enable one to care for patients for up to 72h hours. (Luckily 36h is the most I had to spend with a critically ill patient).
Source: Consultant paramedic.
Second aid is the hospital
They would do a way better job than me, they should probably go first
Only when you’re already in a hospital when the injury happens.
If I’m in a hospital for 4 hrs, there’s a better than 0 chance I get priapism. (Have a thing for nurses)
Bonk, horny jail. This is shower thoughts not locker room thoughts.
First aid is what keeps the casualty alive long enough for second aid. Second aid is trained medical profesionals working in a medical setting, so a hospital or even the ambulace crew that take over after you stopped the casualty leaking too much.
Yup. For minor issues, first aid is all that is needed; you don’t need to see a doctor for a minor cut, as long as the first aid ensures it’s not infected. But for larger things, secondary aid is what provides more long-term recovery.
If someone dislocates a shoulder, first aid is putting it in a sling and bracing it against the body, so it doesn’t get worse (for instance, the tendons and ligaments in the shoulder joint can tear) before they can get to a hospital.
If someone is massively bleeding, first aid is stopping the bleeding to keep them alive until they can get rescued.
I would call the ambulence crew first aid. The hospital emergency room has a lot more equibment and staff. Sure the ambulence has more than you but their goal is still the same, get you to real help fast.
So the box on the wall that says “first aid” is the ambulance crew, roger that
The ambulance crew is part of first aid. As is the box on the wall. As is the non-medical person who uses something from that box on the wall to help. For all of them their primary purpose is to triage, and and then render get people to the correct needed care. Sometimes (often) the situation is minor and they can handle it, however their primary purpose is to get someone in trouble to better care fast. The ambulance crew has a few more tools to get you to the hospital fast, and some tools to solve emergency situations that most of us do not, but their primary job is still getting someone to a hospital.
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And at what point does Kool aid come in?
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