GOP will bitch ofc… but really they just wanted another hillaries emails to fill empty spots in the news cycle so their bullshit would get overshadowed. Biden stopped that shit.
That said, where was this norm defying stuff the past 4 years?
The same place it will be for the next two months.
https://penntoday.upenn.edu/news/presidential-pardons-explained
Tried to educate myself on what the pardon consists of (why?)…and found that there is no real separation between the executive branch and the judicial branch, because prosecution is up to the executive branch and the president can pardon whomever e.g.
For instance, George Washington pardoned participants in the Whisky Rebellion, in part because they enjoyed considerable popular support.
Meaning, you are above the law if you are popular enough: i.e. president, their friend, their agent or even just his rioter. Good thing the opposition to trump is popular too, right?
I get downvoted for saying both parties are as bad as eachother. Whats the justification for this lol?
You probably get downvoted for saying that because it’s false as fuck. And besides being false, it’s the laziest shit ever.
The dems: get mad at trump for pardoning people they dony like
Biden: pardons his own son.
The dems: when we do it its ok.
Clearly as bad as eachother wake up they want u to get distracted by this while they carefully tie the noise around ur neck.
Just cos its lazy doesnt mean it aint true
Did a former Democratic president say he was going to make life difficult for his enemies? Nope.
This implies that the Democrats are now convinced Trump can control the Judiciary.
Which means they don’t believe the separation of powers works anymore.
So in essence, the US democratic system is now dead.
One party killed it, and the other has given up their belief in it.Are you implying that Democrats should have faith that the system works? Everyone has seen it doesn’t. The courts aren’t legitimate, and trump made sure of it.
That’s not the point though and I think you know.
It’s almost like there’s more to a political party than their pardons…
Trump’s pardons wouldn’t make his top 150 crimes. I barely saw any reaction to those. so off the bat you seem entirely full of shit and looking for some lame excuse to pretend the parties are the same. you haven’t paid any attention whatsoever and that’s why you’ve a shitty lazy false argument. not weighing in is a good option for those like this.
abusing the pardon system is not pardoning people that we don’t like.
Dummy
That’s like saying Hitler and Gandhi are the same because they both breath air.
Some people think you are stupid because it seems you can’t grasp that two things aren’t the same just because they share one attribute.
Other people think you are actively lying, using an easy to see trough rhetoric to normalize the gross shit reps do.
Pardoning your son isn’t the same as letting people die because you think their body belongs to you. They are not equally bad. One is clearly worse.
And that is why you get down voted.
because there is no evidence for that statement.
People tend to downvite things they think are stupid.
When one side plays by the rules and the other side doesn’t, then the side playing by the rules will always lose. That’s a lesson the Democrats are just learning.
What’s important to note is who is willing to break the rules first. That’s your bad guy.
One’s a literal inssurectionist who pardoned all of his criminal cronies, who’s only defense against his attempts to steal the election was “I need criminal immunity”.
Biden pardons his own son who absolutely wouldn’t have been targeted were he not a Biden. Trump pardoned Charles Kushner, Jared’s father.
They are absolutely unequivocal.
Liberals scared to admit how evil they are, but also too scared to wear a MAGA hat and be accurately perceived.
Gross. Way to role model being the party of social equality.
are you joking? hunter filled out a form wrong.
who could possibly care?
pop your head out.
are you joking? hunter filled out a form wrong.
Tell it to these chuds talking about death of democracy or whatever.
This was a witchhunt targeted at Hunter only because he’s Joe Biden’s son. Good on him on doing this after that Orange cunt gloated how he’s going to come after ‘Biden crime family’.
He pleaded guilty to 3 felonies and 6 misdemeanors for not paying $1.4 million over 3 years, including making false deductions and dipping into company funds. That’s not “filling out a form wrong”, and if it is, his father should pardon everyone who has been charged under the bad laws that allow people simply “filling out a form wrong” to catch 9 charges. Especially for the people who couldn’t afford accountants and lawyers to file the form correctly for them.
Pardoning your own son only for any possible federal crime, not just the ones he was charged with, especially after saying you wouldn’t, is gross nepotism. And the pardon starts from 2014 when the tax and gun charges are for 2016 onwards, which implies there’s more Joe Biden knows about.
The new Presidency will absolutely spin and use this event.
To do the things they would have done anyway. This is what we chose for ourselves.
Yes but now it will be that much more difficult to fight against it - assuming anyone even tries.
Hunter himself pleaded guilty, and this pardon is prior to sentencing (there are reasons for such obviously), and the justification is not that he is innocent, but that people who commit this crime usually are punished in a civil rather than criminal manner. Plus Biden seemed to be firm that he would never do this, until then he changed his mind and did - which on top of “DOJ bad” adds a measure of “President can do however he pleases”. Especially for people who aren’t paying attention, these are powerful symbols.
Conservatives were going to try, and who are we kidding almost certainly will have succeeded (definitely eventually anyway, even if heavy pushback might have lengthened the timetable more than they would have preferred), but their chances of succeeding right away are now higher than they were last week.
I wonder what the alternative would have been - 16 months in jail for the crimes he committed (that was only for one of the two though), vs. what now that will shake the foundation of our nation?
It’s clear from Trump’s first term that he is not constrained by “optics” or “precedent” at all. He already pardoned a large number of his allies for personal gain. He was always going to abuse the system regardless.
I think he was going to do that regardless and come up with a bullshit excuse. Now he doesn’t need a bullshit excuse and he’s still going to do it. Big deal.
