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  • There is no problem using Lemmy without donating.

    Nobody will stop you, it’s just extremely convenient to be so against their views and at the same time benefit from it.

    If the devs wanted donations they probably shouldn’t have pissed everyone off.

    So, for their work to be worth being paid, they should not hurt your feelings, and as they did, you are entitled to use their work for free until it dies for lack of resources? That’s a very strange take.

    They are offering up their own labor for free and there is no obligation for me to donate.

    True! Let the project die! … Right?

    I don’t like the pressure put on my the community to donate just for the sake of donating.

    You know that’s not “for the sake of donating”, you just don’t want to donate for someone with a political view different from yours, but want to keep benefiting from it. It’s very hypocritical on your part.

    I don’t mind giving money but it has to be earned. I don’t give free lunch.

    You mind if they think differently from you.

    I can not in good conscious support the Lemmy devs.

    But can benefit from their work… Until you can’t because the project will die if they start to think and act like you.

    That doesn’t mean I have to stop using Lemmy.

    True. Aren’t we lucky that the tankies are working for the benefit of the community instead of looking for profit?

    2500 eur to work as a developer in a project this size, full of ungrateful users. These guys are acting as saints, I would totally consider pausing/abandoning it if my basic needs were not met.


  • arthur@lemmy.ziptoAnnouncements@lemmy.zipLemmy needs more donations
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    3 months ago

    First of all, build software is work. So work on Lemmy is work (paid or not).

    I can see 2 possible meanings for what you said: 1- they should work in a regular job to make their living and abandon Lemmy, because it does not provide the means for their living.

    2- they should work in a regular job to make their living and work more, for free, on Lemmy.

    Please clarify, what do you mean? First or second?

    Or, maybe, you mean that they should accept more code contributions from the community… Well, in that case, it would be work anyway, because managing a codebase with multiple contributors is hard and takes time as well.

    Did you mean something else?

    The project depends on the devs, without devs, there will be no fixes or improvements on Lemmy. And many improvements will be necessary if Lemmy user base keep on growing.

    And again, maintaining .ml is so cheap that the .ml users themselves can handle the cost, we are talking about the time and work that the devs are putting in the project that both of us care about.

    Do you like Lemmy? If so, donate should not be an issue.

    If it is an issue, maybe you should consider migrating to other platform. The good news about it is that ActivityPub will let you access the content anyway… If Lemmy survives… And if the devs implement the compatibility.


  • So many “I hate tankies” that now I’m afraid the project will die. But if those tankies have a change of heart and decide to make Lemmy for profit we will see Reddit history all over again.

    2500 eur is a very low wage to live on considering the importance of this project. To be honest, the Lemmy community should be deeply thankful that the devs are “tankies“, otherwise Lemmy would be just another reddit tragedy to happen.

    (And keeping .ml up costs almost nothing, their users can maintain it easily, the devs wages needs funding)