So you’re just discussing in bad faith here. How the hell do you know the CEO (or the management) “wants” war but does not want to “provoke war”? Are you a mind reader?
Or are you one of those people thinking we shouldn’t have an army?
I also notice the “USA BAD” bias, what about russia, they do want war and provoke it.
Mate I’m Estonian, Russia is bad by default, it doesn’t even need discussion. You don’t think Russian military industry CEOs and owners didn’t cream their pants when Putin invaded Ukraine again? Chemezov is super happy about it for one, he’s also very happy that western companies are no longer competing with him on the Russian market.
The CEOs of military industrial companies, like any other CEOs, are going to make more money if the company’s numbers are better. If a war happening in bumfuck nowhere doubles the Christmas bonus of one of those bloodsuckers, you bet they’ll cheer for it. It’s not like war affects them personally. And it’s hella fucking profitable.
I’m not anti military spending, I’m anti capitalists profiting from bloodshed. Military industry shouldn’t be profitable. It should be nationalised.
I just hate this stupid fearmongering about military spending. We should spend more nowadays, so this whole narrative that some hidden kabal is provoking wars is just bad for everyone IMO. And yes it’s disgusting that CEOs gets bonuses because they sell more weapons, but we want them to make them so that we can buy them, it’s IMO not the other way around.
It’s absolutely what putin would love BTW, “lets shut down those war hawks’ businesses!” narrative.
But I think you and I might be on the same side when it comes down to it, or so I feel.
I’m not against either of our countries increasing military spending either, I’m just disgusted that a bunch of people are getting rich off people dying. Hence my idea that weapons manufacturing should be a public industry, not a for-profit one. European nations could still collaborate too. Not everyone needs to make everything.
So you’re just discussing in bad faith here. How the hell do you know the CEO (or the management) “wants” war but does not want to “provoke war”? Are you a mind reader?
Or are you one of those people thinking we shouldn’t have an army?
I also notice the “USA BAD” bias, what about russia, they do want war and provoke it.
Mate I’m Estonian, Russia is bad by default, it doesn’t even need discussion. You don’t think Russian military industry CEOs and owners didn’t cream their pants when Putin invaded Ukraine again? Chemezov is super happy about it for one, he’s also very happy that western companies are no longer competing with him on the Russian market.
The CEOs of military industrial companies, like any other CEOs, are going to make more money if the company’s numbers are better. If a war happening in bumfuck nowhere doubles the Christmas bonus of one of those bloodsuckers, you bet they’ll cheer for it. It’s not like war affects them personally. And it’s hella fucking profitable.
I’m not anti military spending, I’m anti capitalists profiting from bloodshed. Military industry shouldn’t be profitable. It should be nationalised.
I’m swedish so I know the history.
I just hate this stupid fearmongering about military spending. We should spend more nowadays, so this whole narrative that some hidden kabal is provoking wars is just bad for everyone IMO. And yes it’s disgusting that CEOs gets bonuses because they sell more weapons, but we want them to make them so that we can buy them, it’s IMO not the other way around.
It’s absolutely what putin would love BTW, “lets shut down those war hawks’ businesses!” narrative.
But I think you and I might be on the same side when it comes down to it, or so I feel.
Cheers and fuck russia
I’m not against either of our countries increasing military spending either, I’m just disgusted that a bunch of people are getting rich off people dying. Hence my idea that weapons manufacturing should be a public industry, not a for-profit one. European nations could still collaborate too. Not everyone needs to make everything.