• astutemural@midwest.social
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    23 days ago

    This seems like a lot of work (both practically to do this and mentally to make this argument) when you could just…not eat meat? Seems a lot easier and more ethical.

    • Plebcouncilman@sh.itjust.works
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      22 days ago

      The easiest path is not necessarily the best or right path. Though I do agree that in the context of modern industrial meat production the more ethical thing to do is not consume meat. But that is not the same thing as saying that eating meat is wrong, or immoral. The immoral thing is the way the animals suffer before being killed.

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        22 days ago

        It’s also unethical because it destroys the planet, harming everyone and everything on it. That is baked in. Producing meat will always take several times more resources than an equivalent amount of plants. Since our society refuses to limit usage of water, ground nutrients, etc, to sustainable levels, eating meat will harm the environment. Every bite of meat you take steals from future generations.

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        22 days ago

        Killing animals that don’t need to be killed is also wrong. And in a modern society, there is no requirement for us to eat meat, as we can live full lives on wholly plant-based diets.

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          22 days ago

          Killing animals that don’t need t be killed…

          Agreed! That’s why I’d only kill an animal when I’m hungry.

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        14 days ago

        The immoral thing is the way the animals suffer before being killed.

        What is the difference between a human an an animal that means in one case there’s nothing wrong with killing a vulnerable individual who doesn’t want to die as long as they don’t experience physical pain, but a big problem in the other case?

        • Plebcouncilman@sh.itjust.works
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          14 days ago

          I will leave this notification on so I can answer later. The reason I can’t answer now is that I want to publish the full framework first, because it does answer that question but it is extensive.

          The short answer is that in absolute terms there is no difference, but because everyone says says it is worse then it is worse.