• BrainInABox@lemmy.ml
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    17 hours ago

    I think you need a nap or something

    Starting with an insult, as all bad faith arguers do.

    because what you said isn’t anything I wrote.

    It is what they call “paraphrasing”

    The government would actually be losing control of information compared to the level they currently have it at. And so would advertisers and propagandists

    So who would be moderating this government forum?

    FYI propaganda warfare is literally NOT democracy

    It literally is though, certainly under capitalism, at least: propaganda is how you convince people to vote for the policies you want/represent.

    it’s fascism and fascist control of info.

    Yeah, no one other than fascists have ever engaged in propaganda…

    Grow up and argue in good faith, ya piece of shit

    🙄

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      16 hours ago

      Define “strawman” and define “paraphrasing.”

      You did not paraphrase, you made up an entirely different thing that was never said by me.

      Say something negative about Putin.

      The government moderates it along with the laws we put into place that protect us. Again, they are already doing this without the laws or transparency via private businesses.

      Propaganda WARFARE is new, mostly online, and hasn’t been used like this before ~2016. It is NOT democracy to hear a select few people’s opinion over and over again.

      Capitalism is inherently fascist, see The Rise and Fall of the Neoliberal World Order by Gerstle. It cannot be truly democratic due to its inherent fascism, and part of that is the relentless propaganda used during capitalism via commercials, media, etc to sway people from freely consenting and critically thinking. People don’t need “propaganda” to learn about policies, they can watch town halls, debates, talks, etc, discuss them with each other, and freely exchange ideas. (Doesn’t surprise me at all that you are in support of fascist control of info).

      Propaganda warfare is literally fascism, made by fascists, to spread fascism.

      Hey can you say something negative about Putin?

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        16 hours ago

        Define “strawman” and define “paraphrasing.”

        Strawman: Misrepresenting someones point as a different, less strong, point. Paraphrasing: Expressing the same concept in different wording.

        Hence why I was paraphrasing, because I didn’t misrepresent your point.

        Say something negative about Putin.

        Are you going to do this on every post now? Do you need me to recite the pledge of allegiance every post too? Say something negative about Barack Obama.

        The government moderates it

        Ok. So it’s information control by the government.

        Propaganda WARFARE is new, mostly online, and hasn’t been used like this before ~2016.

        Lol. Yeah ok. I’m not sure who you’re expecting is going to take seriously the idea that propaganda campaigns weren’t invented until decades after the cold war.

        Capitalism is inherently fascist, see The Rise and Fall of the Neoliberal World Order by Gerstle. It cannot be truly democratic due to its inherent fascism, and part of that is the relentless propaganda used during capitalism via commercials, media, etc to sway people from freely consenting and critically thinking.

        No disagreement here; but surely you realize this also means that control of information by a capitalist government isn’t the solution.

        Propaganda warfare is literally fascism, made by fascists, to spread fascism.

        Just because fascists use propaganda doesn’t’ mean that they invented it or only they use it.

        Hey can you say something negative about Putin?

        Wow, so you’re not just going to ask this every post, you’re going to ask it multiple times per post. Do you need me to sign a loyalty pledge too? Swear under oath that I am not and have never been a member of the communist party?

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          16 hours ago

          A strawman is taking someone’s genuine argument and then distorting or misrepresenting it to make it easier to attack. A strawman argument isn’t valid and it isn’t paraphrasing. Generally when people paraphrase in good faith, they will ask if they said the paraphrase correctly and will correct themselves if it is incorrect.

          They cannot remove just anything, they have to have a legal basis to do so and can be sued, less government control than now.

          I said propaganda warfare, meaning online propaganda warfare that started in 2016, a new type of warfare. Obviously.

          Again, it is less control than what exists presently already via private companies that would still exist later anyway. We still can advocate for progress even within capitalism and fascism, that’s how we dig out of both.

          Propaganda warfare in my comment is specifically referencing online warfare since 2016, and it is absolutely Putin’s baby.

          You did slightly better on this comment in terms of nonsensical spewing, nice

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            15 hours ago

            I’ve got to ask the liberals of this com: are you really not at all uncomfortable that the liberal discourse has descended to the level of the absolute toxic insanity of the above post? Like, honest question, how is this any different to the average MAGA chud at this point?

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                  15 hours ago

                  Coming from the person who called me insane and crazy like Qanon many times lol, including in your first response to me.

                  You are genuinely exhibiting signs of a mental health event and spammed this comment several times. It is a mental health event. Go to the ER. Your brain is doing weird shit.