@Digit @thatradomguy i just built minimalistic kkernel for orange pi with almost everrything disabled and it takes 6mB even in compressed state

@Digit @tourist TDE is bloated too.; It’s good alternative to KDE, but if you have really resource-limited system, it’s better to use some WM

@aloofPenguin @chloroken it’s so stupid like trying replace xrandr with ddcutil…

@Kolanaki @The_Picard_Maneuver i’m not sure if any existing hardware can handle vrchat smoothly. This piece of udon and photon cannot work smoothly with more than dozen players

@NullPointerException @yesman debian never updates it

@hdsrob
>That’s basically Avalonia UI.
no, avalonia cannot help you run existing applications. Also. Avalonia is a crap, taking minutes to parse xml crap on poor hardware
Yes, there are many implementaion of WPF-like UI, but no implementation of existing Windows UI.
mono’s winforms allows you run existing winforms apps without single line change or even without recompiling (just replace related System.Windows.* assembies)

@DacoTaco Yes, it’s Microsoft decided to kill classic win32 widgets and any XAML support in Mono, forcing new WinRT platform and not providing any GUI support in netcore. It’s sad that nobody made some crossplatform WPF implementation for modern dotnet, Maui is not incompatible with existing source code, IIRC

@kirk781 no, it is not because of linux support. It’s only because managers hiring web developers instead of desktop apps developers. Because… managers do not see real difference, but see some stylish web design.
Microsoft ruined cross-platform desktop apps many years ago in early WPF/Sliverlight/XAML era by ceasing Moonlight project:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moonlight/_(runtime)
https://web.archive.org/web/20120716033915/http://lists.ximian.com/pipermail/moonlight-list/2011-December/001392.html
So there is no reason to blame Linux that we do not have modern cross-platfrom toolkit for GUI apps.
Microsoft decided to make new XAMP/UWP incompatible with classic widgets GUI and kill classic GUI in WinRT/Win8 era, Microsoft decided to make XAML GUI Windows-only and cease mono developement entirely, not providing any GUI supportt

@DacoTaco @MoogleMaestro there is a port of mono winforms implementation to modern dotnet and it’s really works:
https://github.com/DanielVanNoord/System.Windows.Forms

@jollyrogue @XenGi it is not particularly good outside of Gnome environment

@UnfortunateShort @kirk781 there is PWA for such apps

@Jankatarch @mod_pp but msys2 is not windows…

@squaresinger but it stable trying remove unrelated software when installing steam or 32-bit software. Installing steam caused DE removal even more then ten years ago

@squaresinger @boonhet typical apt…

@MyOpinion is it running vision os? If no, how is it comparable?

@The_Picard_Maneuver https://combineoverwiki.net/wiki/Gonome

@Supreme @dual_sport_dork i’m not even sure if lighthouse-based vr setups still relevant in 2025. Yes, it’s still good for enthusiasts, but it’s expensive and poor for consumer’s usage comparing to standalones. And it’s even not open-hardware, so it’s not even good for opensource enthusiasts

@Sustolic @VitoRobles 15 years ago initng in linuxmint was doing magic; booting system to gnome2 desktop in 3 seconds from grub. On PCs with intel motherboard this was about 4 seconds from poweron. And moreover, this was on HDD.
Now all systems are bloated and cannot boot in 3 seconds even on SSD

@Magnum @Lukemaster69 proton usually runs in container

@vala @cronenthal it’s sad that valve replaced ui with glitchy web bullshit. I stopped updating steam in 2022 and almost stop using it (2022’s version works, but cannot unpack new depot chunks after zstd chunks was introduced).
Also, it’s now irrelevant for gaming service, because another browser eats resources and it cannot be disabled now. There was some alternative solutions, like openstramclient, but it is not in useful state for some reason. They made fully working client in qt and deprecated it, announcing c# rewrite. old qt version works with 2022s steam, but i do not know if it works with modern versions