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Cheers. Hopefully you learned something. I’ll admit I had a giggle at the situation when I noticed your username.

Maybe I do. Who’s to say - unless you want to tell me what I do again?

Its been rare to see somone so utterly dismantled that their only response is to repeat the observation I made at the end of that thrashing. It is almost comical how you just set yourself up for a callback to the parroting and echo chamber comments.

In closing:

Even if I did have a blog, I think it’s apparent, by now, you’d just wait for somone else to read it and tell you what to think.

xoxo

… I feel like for a very specific group this is probably like getting an extra scoop of icecream when they only paid for one.

I, for one, cannot wait for my ram to rootkit me. But at least it will have rgb.

Jokes aside if this helps with ram pricing that’d be cool. I don’t think it will - but it’d be nice.

Oh cool, now I’m an irrational person who reacts quickly. Thats a good start.

The full body of your response disregarded the core meaning of what I was saying. You didn’t understand something but just powered on through with your opinion. Which if we can appreciate the irony:

You, like many, are looking to burn a company at the stake over what I would clearly describe as a very polished product… Over an asset that they mistakenly left in. Can you comprehend how batshit insane that is?

My response was measured and pretty on the nose I’d say.

Do you even know the point you are trying to make? You make a bunch of preconceptions and then claim you won’t do that, so thats fun too.

Considering the consistency in what I’ve said in this thread … I’d say I do. As far as me making preconceptions: again I’d recommend you take a look at what I wrote and read it again. (We have a trend developing) I gave my reasons: and I provided the logic behind it. But if you’d like to drag this out: go ahead and show me what my “preconceptions” were. I’ll wait.

You can keep writing nonsense arguments all you want, you aren’t an artist and should probably do what you said and shutup instead of making a bunch of assumptions.

I posted facts, I provided commentary on them, and even provided an example as a parallel. You, by your own words: didn’t understand the example (and made no attempt to), you ignored the nuance of the commentary, and preceded to put your ignorance on full display here.

And apparently you want to complete this nonsense by implying you know me or what I do. I dont recall knowing anyone as dull as you that suffered a headwound … But I’ll jog your memory:

Staring with the key topic:

I’ve signed more NDAs and non-competes for multiple, well known, gaming companies … Than years you’ve existed on this planet. So let’s just say I have “some” industry knowledge.

You mentioned I’m not an artist: another bold claim but… Its broad so let’s cover the bases.

I started my career in design. I’ve worked with 5 color printing presses. I’ve been paid for my work, although digital art, which has been seen by “roughly a country of people” around '04. Not enough for you? I maintain a circle of artist friends, who - over time have filled my home and consequently one of my closets with their works. I am honored and grateful that I’d be trusted with someone’s original blood sweat and tears condensed into a single medium. I’d be forgiven, I think, for speaking on their behalf. If not? They know my handle - they have my number - and know where I live…

They can @ me and tell me to shut up. You can’t.

I could go on but I think I’ve made my point sufficiently in this long post. Go crawl back to the echo chamber from whence you came. If you are capable of critical thought - it has yet to be demonstrated.

What does NASA have to do with the creation of art? Art and science are not the same thing. What might be good for progress technologically, like flying to the moon, might not be good for a different field.

Reread the comment instead of irrationally reacting before you understand the context. Calculators used to be people. Literally. It was a job. I brought up NASA as an example because, very famously, their “calculators” were part of history… So it should have been well known enough for people to see the parallel. But then I guess ever since moving to digital boards for math we can just downplay all subsequent achievments because the scientists didnt work hard enough.

Art is all about the time and energy spent. If Clair Obscure came out of an AI machine that took 3 minutes to create it, most people wouldn’t play it and it wouldn’t have won any awards.

If I’m not mistaken those artists’ art was well recieved. I find it interesting that so many people seem intent on defining a world they aren’t part of. Wacom tablets are tools, are digital artists not real artists because they don’t use paper?

Know any artists? I know quite a few. I wouldn’t dare inject my preconceptions on their process. Who the fuck am I to tell somone what is or isn’t part of their process. Traditional media, music, …even architects use tools to help iterate on their ideas - and their lives are easier for it.

But please, explain to the class why your ideals supercede their own.

Cutting corners or “saving time and energy” is the opposite of exploring creatively, and these tools are not capable of unique thought or inspiration.

Speaking for everyone? That’s bold. Is that your process or are you just a bobblehead parroting what someone else told you to say?

AI as a monolithic “thing” is bullshit. Fugazi. We relabled a ton of tools like OCR and other pattern recognition engines: “AI” to capitalize on the sheer stupidity of the average investor. Artificial intelligence indeed.

I digress. Tools save time and energy. If a team can prototype a space and become more immersed in their project faster and with less effort - so much the better.

I’m for tools as effort multipliers. My initial statement implied as much. I don’t see us running back to rooms full of women doing math at NASA and discarding the digital equivalent.

Look - everyone is absolutely sick of “AI” being jammed into everything. I get the raw response to it… But the concern isn’t about renamed tools; it’s not about a glorified chatbot being an “ok” facsimile. No company would spend billions on that. If by some chance they could make an automiton that was good enough… That could work without stopping, have no rights, for free. Literally they are gambling everything on a shot at replacing every single worker they currently employ. They don’t want workers. They want slaves. That is short sighted, ignorant, bullshit… which deserves all the hate it gets and more. But that - ain’t this.

Mind blown.

Look I’ve seen the hours those studios and devs put into design… If they want to prototype using a tool? Nobody’s losing a job over that. Its a couple hours saved from doom scrolling though your existing assets looking for something temporary.

Yeah, it slipped out though the cracks. But then how many games are loaded with “Unintended Easter eggs” because people are human. I don’t get it. The event is no more novel than finding an untextured brick off the beaten trail or a picture of a dev left in following an in joke amongst the team.

I know we seem to be trending towards brain damaged children as leadership of our countries as of late… But… Did they just literally go: “no u?”

Look. Hackaday… If it’s a slow week… We get it. Take a day off. We still like you. Just… Less of this please.

Nevermind the fact most readers and tablets come -with- a cover … So its almost like a book anyway. Which people fold behind the page. Like a book. What was that extra screen doing again?

Clearly burnout from all that winning we’ve been doing.

Just remember to try really hard to not to seed it and say it’s training data… And it’s fair use.

To summarize: I’ve added nothing to my initial points because there is nothing I need to add. Every subsequent reply I’ve made has been to explain this, and the reasons for this, to you. I am quite happy to continue doing this as long as you would like.

And as it is your opinion - you’re welcome to it… But unfortunately that doesn’t make it correct. My behavior, as you keep insinuating, is based simply on my opinion not aligning with your own. And, as I stated before, I’m fine with that.

The reason you keep needing to produce such large blocks of “logic” … Despite:

nothing I need to add

I don’t believe I have to say anything more here

I have no interest in this discussion becoming a debate

You aren’t debating. You have nothing to add. You are “resolute” in a baseless observation that suits your needs.

To quote office space: “what is it you’d say - that you do here?”

Genuinely, while funny, I’m going to need to go source more rope because you seem intent on just taking more and more in making the most rube-goldbergian noose I’ve ever witnessed.

If you want to actually have a discussion or debate the topic - I’m still happy to engage on that. But if you insist on just rehashing your own opinion as some infallible fact - I find that sometimes it’s just better to let children tantrum themselves out.

I have no interest in this discussion becoming a debate.

And yet…

I have made my assertions, have maintained those assertions consistently and those assertions have since been shown to be completely validated.

Ah yes “I have made a assertion… And then arvived at the difficult conclusion that my own assertion is correct.” This child like circular logic could best be added to with a reinforcing such iron-clad reasoning with some sort of additional …

There continues to be nothing that I need to add to that.

Hah. This brings joy. The pure contradiction makes this the cherry on top.

I digress - If you’ve nothing to discuss… And your assessment is beyond reproach - seeing you determined it as such… One does wonder how such strong, unwavering, statements need so much attention to remain standing. The mind boggles.

For someone with so little to say and so little you’re willing to discuss… It does amuse how dutifly you return to parrot the same thing, claim you words to be self-evident, and then huffily exit again. Its almost endearing.

It’s like you and one other guy who can’t seem to understand what the entire rest of the thread is telling you.

Sorry I don’t subscribe to group think and believe in open discourse?

You don’t want to understand. You want to be mad.

I’m not sure you grasp the nuance of discussion outside whatever COD match you crawled out of. If you are genuinely convinced someone discussing something is “mad” … You must live in a pretty dark place. That’s simply not how normal people are… If that’s something you expect - that’s rough.

This isn’t “nuh uh”, it’s just you not understanding English.

Boil down for me what your interpretation is of that statement the girl made in panel 4. Why is it “about what she expected?” Why would she expect it?

Go on. Explain english to me. I’d love to discuss this.

… He asked lamenting the fact that language arts is no longer taught in schools.

I’ll wait.

There’s been no psychoanalysis, cyclical or otherwise, occuring here. Simply a recounting of your directly observable behavior and the things you have said.

I have repeatedly emphasized how, in this discussion, I have stayed on the single topic of criticizing your behavior. You have already admitted that you have approached these discussions in bad faith. As a result I’m not interested in entertaining what I am unfortunately forced to consider might be, given your earlier admissions, less-than-genuine attempts to engage in discussion.

It’s not my opinion that you do things like that, its your own stated position. I don’t enjoy having to assume you’re not acting in good faith, but when you admit you don’t engage in good faith, the only reasonable thing for me to do is to assume you were telling the truth.

Again, my intial justified criticism of your behavior is the topic here, and once again that’s the sole topic I am willing to entertain in this discussion.

The response you are obsessing about was midway through our exchange where it had become comically apparent you’d become incapable of anything outside of this apparent “you you you.” In most debates - if you opponent needs to shift to personal attacks and comments on your as a person… They’ve lost.

Frankly, at that point you probably noticed a shift where I was simply having fun with the reaponses as I took you less seriously as time went on. And if I’m being honest, what reason have I to take you seriously? You are avoiding topic matter for whatever this broken record is. My “behavior,” as you put it, boils down to a differing opinion and willingness to discuss it openly. As mentioned before: ghastly behavior… Indeed. As this chain continues to highlight - I am open to discussing such things and you aren’t. Son, that’s not a me problem. I’d recommend a mirror… Or perhaps a book on debate. That’d at least make for a more interesting exchange. Presently I’m only getting mild amusement out of the broken record responses… And were veering dangerously close to that shifting to pity.

In my defense I’m waiting for the coffee to kick in… But I thought the image belonged to this post and I had a giggle.