I was browsing reddit and saw thi post /r/europe deleted for Berlin protest.
Yes, spez is unequivocally, without a shadow of a doubt, destroying reddit for human users in the name of profit.
The censorship on there is so pervasive now. Even the most mildest of takes will get you on your way to permanent bans in subreddits and sitewide. They seem to prefer bots using the platform over humans. Reddit is anti-user and anti-free speech.
Lemmy hates free speech just as much. Try saying anything about certain topics ur not allowed to criticise and u too will get banned.
You can only get banned at community or instance level. Nobody can ban you on your own instance, only defederate.
That’s still censorship. My instance is politically neutral and allows actual free speech as long as u follow laws and instance policy etc. We have been mass defederated cos of provably false reports on fediseer.
Could you give me an example?
I’ll probably get banned or at leat my comment removed but u can’t criticise trans in any regard. Disagreeing ideology = ur a bigot and fascist Nazi = banned Citing peer reviewed journals = ur a bigot and fascist Nazi = banned
Transphobic arguments tend to either be in bad faith or poorly-informed, and are often bolstered by Brandolini’s Law. i.e. the one that says “The amount of energy needed to refute bullsh-t is an order of magnitude bigger than that needed to produce it”.
The especially clever ones claim that peer-reviewed journals say things they don’t.
If Reddit are against transphobia it might be one of the few things that’s still going right over there… and I wouldn’t expect it to last.
I suspect it’s because anyone who disagrees with (or even just calls it) “trans ideology” doesn’t understand it. Trans people aren’t a set of beliefs, they’re a set of people. Some of them are clever enough to understand the sociological, philosophical, biological ramifications, and will argue that way.
But for most, simply living as their birth gender is a constant uphill struggle of psychological pain or discomfort that they can only ameliorate by going through gender reassignment - itself not exactly a simple pain free process. By arguing against their ideology, whatever that means, you’re in effect saying “you don’t deserve comfort. The right to the pursuit of happiness does not apply to you”. Which effectively robs them of their humanity. And thinking of some people as sub-human is, verifiably, what fascists and Nazis do.
“Evil begins when you start treating people as if they were things”
That would have been removed by the r/europe moderators, not reddit.
It’s funny how many people are so vocal about this but fail to understand this basic point.
Unfortunately reddit’s new policies spread to sub mods as well - out of fear or pre-emptive obedience or hunger for power, normal mods have gotten worse too.
A lot of mods have always been terrible and power hungry. I still mod a smallish subreddit and I can assure you that there has been nothing at all pushing mods to “act out of fear or pre-emptive obedience”, I have no idea what you are referring to.
And how is this supposed to destroy Reddit? Different platforms have different censorship norms. Say “Israel bad” – get your Reddit ban. Say something non-praising about LGBT – get ban here. Say something about peace – and you’re banned in Russia.
“Say something non-praising about LGBT” will get you banned? I want to try that out!
Ahem: Some LGBT people I’ve met have been really boring!
I feel so attacked and/or seen
Well, you could always try and make up for it by having more sex on average than straight people. Zing!
Man, ragging on the gays like this is going to get me cancelled, I can feel it!
Wow, two days in a row, and it’s not even Pride!
Right, but Reddit’s whole schtick was that it was more of a free speech sort of place, so long as you didn’t do anything overtly illegal. That’s the user base it built. When you get rid of your user base, you typically destroy the site.
Just look at LiveJournal. Chased out the users because they wanted to clamp down on the gays in Russia, and I haven’t heard of anyone with a LiveJournal in over a decade.
Reddit’s whole schtick was that it was more of a free speech sort of place
When? 10 years ago, it was already a hunting zone for moderators. Not as bad as nowadays, yes, but bad nonetheless.
“Reddit bans sexually suggestive images of children” that was in 2012. They were still cool with doxing on alt-right subs up until 2017. Were there overzealous mods in 2015? I’m sure there were, but as a whole, Reddit as a platform has historically allowed for an awful lot of shit in the name of free speech.
Admin-led bans were for a minority of things. “Jailbait” bans were admin required. Doxing bans were admin required. Now… Pro-Luigi bans are admin required. Bans when posting about protests being admin required is another step that seeks to alienate the userbase, IMO.
